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Gerry
17th Nov 2007, Italy won't lose.

Pretty simple.

Think about it. European finals without the top team, holders of the World Cup?

TV money? UEFA Influence? Referee? Who holds the Power? Kudos?

Scotland instead of Italy? Damn, no....

No matter what happens, even if SCO win, Scotland ain't going to HB/OE land.



Mark this.

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Kris


Who needs either Italy or France? I mean Greece are the holders of the European Cup!! I think we will go through, Georgia was the reality check we so badly needed. Also, influential players like Alan Hutton, Scott Brown, Lee McCulloch will be back in the sqaud which is a boost.

On the footballing matter. What a result today. Does anybody know what happened to Tam Mcmanus after Cousin gave him the `heedbut`? Slight concussion?
allanmack
QUOTE(Kris @ Oct 21 2007, 02:06 AM) [snapback]27134[/snapback]
Who needs either Italy or France? I mean Greece are the holders of the European Cup!! I think we will go through, Georgia was the reality check we so badly needed. Also, influential players like Alan Hutton, Scott Brown, Lee McCulloch will be back in the sqaud which is a boost.

On the footballing matter. What a result today. Does anybody know what happened to Tam Mcmanus after Cousin gave him the `heedbut`? Slight concussion?


Does Tam McManus not play for Dundee?
Kris
QUOTE(allanmack @ Oct 21 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]27137[/snapback]
Does Tam McManus not play for Dundee?


My apologies, got that completely wrong dont know where Tam came from. *STEPHEN* McManus
DJ
QUOTE(Kris @ Oct 21 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]27138[/snapback]
My apologies, got that completely wrong dont know where Tam came from. *STEPHEN* McManus



Don't worry, we all make mistakes, I think I re-named 'KAKA' as 'DADA' a wee while back icon_redface.gif
ChrisG
I think i can say that 99% of people want Scotland to beat Italy, it would be great to see them qualify. As an Englishman who is appaled at the level of Englands play i am just waiting for Scotland to be ranked above England in the FIFA rankings.

quick joke - What have England and Lewis Hamilton got in common?

They both got screwed by dodgy Mclarens icon_biggrin.gif
Gerry
Excellent! icon_biggrin.gif



Though, I can still feel it in my watter there will be a dodgy decision or two.





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Briazy
QUOTE(Gerry @ Nov 16 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]27287[/snapback]
Excellent! icon_biggrin.gif
Though, I can still feel it in my watter there will be a dodgy decision or two.

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Gerry, cant help but agree.
When Italy need a result they usually get it either by hook or more likely by crook.
I would love Scotland to turn them over. C'mon boys dig deep.!!
Gerry
It was never a free kick








Shocking decision...
nighthawk
QUOTE(Gerry @ Nov 17 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]27300[/snapback]
It was never a free kick

Yes it was!!!!
That was clearly a free kick.......... to SCOTLAND!!!! That was one of the most blatant fouls I have seen for a LONG time! normally you can look at a decision, see it was wrong, but still understand how the ref could have seen it otherwise. but with that foul, every time I see it I become more and more annoyed....i cannot for the life of me see how that could have been awarded as a free kick to italy!

Before the game I thought your conspiracy theory was rubbish...... after seeing that decision.... i think you were spot on!
Gerry
Many people think football is a sport. It isn't. It's big business.

The corrupt decisions last night favoured Italy and France.
It was unfortunate that the ref & linesman are pretty stupid to notice
many of the 'real' offences.
That is only what naive viewers of the game will see.

Hand picked UEFA refs will be pre-breifed before games.
There is a business plan and targets to acheive.

Look at the figures of any big cup final(s) where the bigger
teams have failed and the smaller teams have progressed and won.

The $$$$$'s doesn't meet the targets (sales, TV rights etc etc)


eg: Why seed teams? So that the diddy teams get put out first!
Oglet Lane Banjo Player
QUOTE(Gerry @ Nov 18 2007, 01:01 PM) [snapback]27304[/snapback]
Many people think football is a sport. It isn't. It's big business.

The corrupt decisions last night favoured Italy and France.
It was unfortunate that the ref & linesman are pretty stupid to notice
many of the 'real' offences.
That is only what naive viewers of the game will see.

Hand picked UEFA refs will be pre-breifed before games.
There is a business plan and targets to acheive.

Look at the figures of any big cup final(s) where the bigger
teams have failed and the smaller teams have progressed and won.

The $$$$$'s doesn't meet the targets (sales, TV rights etc etc)
eg: Why seed teams? So that the diddy teams get put out first!


Re corrupt decisions. Don't forget that Serie A was rocked by a match fixing scandal in 2006 which itself involved match officials!
I've already written to UEFA to ask for their assurance that nothing untoward happened on Saturday evening.
Blimpie
QUOTE(Oglet Lane Banjo Player @ Nov 19 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]27313[/snapback]
Re corrupt decisions. Don't forget that Serie A was rocked by a match fixing scandal in 2006 which itself involved match officials!
I've already written to UEFA to ask for their assurance that nothing untoward happened on Saturday evening.


Conspiracy? This one's doing the rounds --

Ace referee Mick McFlurry takes you step by step through a typical Old Firm day for the match referee:


1. Always a bit of a sleepless night, the night before an Old Firm game so I find myself wide awake at 4.30am. Being a man of the cloth I decide to spend some time reading extracts from my bible, particularly the parts about treating others as they treat you and loving thy neighbours.

2. Arrive at my favourite ground in the entire world where the hospitality displayed by all is first class. Receive warm embrace from Walter (we go back a long way) and hear one or two tremendously funny tales from the cheeky wee chappy McCoist, who happily poses for pictures and signs autographs for some of my relatives. What a guy.

3. Go into the away dressing room to share a few words just prior to kick off but find Father Burns in the middle of some Rosemary prayer ritual with the players and am shocked to find even the Protestants giving it Hail Mary! Being a Christian, Father Burns extends an invite to myself to join in and share a pre-match spiritual moment to which I politely decline and quickly hurry out the room. I may be a Christian but I’m not THAT type of Christian!

4. Walk onto the pitch with the teams and am immediately greeted by a tremendous roar from the most loyal fans in world football. Get the two captains together to toss the coin and receive a friendly grip of the hand from Barry.

5. I intend to put my mark on the game as soon as possible and that young Australian ruffian McDonald provides my with the ideal opportunity after he puts his ankle into the home keepers studs and I present him with a yellow card. The ex-convict pleads his case by stating McGregor stamped on his foot but I laugh it off as there’s no way a fine young Presbyterian chap would do such a thing. To prove my point three home team players immediately surround McDonald and offer him a friendly welcome to our place shove on the chest. Great guys.

6. A little while later that Italian thug offers me no option other than to show my second yellow card of the match. Come on an Italian with his hair dyed red, its obvious one of Rome’s sons has been sent to wind up the people from God’s chosen country and I will not tolerate this.

7. Just on the half hour mark and bang, goal for the Teddies! I see young Hutton running all the way past the away support giving them a friendly wave before jumping on top of Spain’s finest evangelical follower. It really takes all my restraint to stop joining in the fun!

8. Dreadful stare by Brown on a Rangers player. Booked!
9. Oh what’s that, an accidental clash of heads between McManus and Cousin, quick get the medics on.
10. Shame young McManus had to be replaced, I hope he’s fit in time for the next Scotland game. Oh look, another accidental clash between O’Dea and Cousin. I hope Cousin is ok.

11. What’s this someone tying their laces without my permission. Right Kennedy, you’re booked.
12. What a goal by Barry and look at the 20 man celebration by the players and all their coaching staff off the pitch. It’s normally a booking for leaving the field of play but come on, two nil to the Teddies, just go with the flow!

13. I see the wee traitor McGeady is coming on as a sub. I’ll soon get him.
14. Right, got him for sticking his calf into McCulloch’s boot. Done!
15. Big Davie Weir is down holding his face with his fellow bears pointing at Jarosik. I can only assume known hardman Jarosik has jabbed one of his blonde locks into Big Davie’s left eye almost causing the classy defender to lose it. I’ll have none of that. Booked!

16. Barry is doing a tremendous job not only for the home team but also acting as an assistant referee and pointing out little incidents that I may have missed. I give him a friendly wee pat on the backside and advise him that I’ll thank him in kind after the match!

17. I check my notepad to see I’ve booked 6 Tim, err Celtic players and not one from the home team. To avoid conspiracy theories I better book a couple of Rangers players now that the game is all but over.

18. Oh ya beauty a penalty. I ask Barry if I can take it but he says the SFA might not to be happy after Gordon Nice’s recent comments and it would be better for all concerned if didn’t.

19. GOAL. Go on the wee man and there’s me with a tenner on three nil!
20. Handbag incident near the end allows me the ideal moment to book a couple of home players. I caution those two fine upstanding pillars of the Methodist community before Barry advises me to send that basturt Boruc off. I check my notepad to find I hadn’t booked him earlier, blast, first mistake of the day!

21. Naylor pulls a funny face and O’Dea is well, you know, Irish so both of them are booked for good measure. Wow 9-2 in cautions to the followers of Rome, I’ll get a standing ovation at the next referee’s meeting!

22. Final whistle goes and going by the Rangers players comments I’ve had a great match. Boruc doesn’t look too happy as he leaves the pitch but still takes time out to shout over ‘Sikora’ to me as he runs up the tunnel. Must be Polish for good game!

23. Leave the famous ground with hearty handshakes from the home officials all round, although they do try their best to get me along to their post-match celebrations. I have to decline their fine offer as it’s an early night for me tonight as I’ve got a service first thing in the morning!

P.S. Don’t call me Mick!


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